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Discussion in 'The Pub' started by Sheldon Cooper, Nov 15, 2016.
Harley sell a good matte paint cleaner that helps keep it streak free.
White - be different.
My favorite bike was my Busa, loved it. 2006 model, fastest production bike in the world at that time. I will upload a photo here as soon a Photobucket decides it wants to load.
I used to race motocross as a kid and into my early 20s. Then didn't touch a bike for nearly 20 years. Got on a road bike and was hooked again. First bike was a Hyosung GV250, then straight to the Busa after 6 months. Have a mate that bought a new 2010 GSXR1000, reckons his bike was faster than mine.....it wasn't....He kept joking that I was riding a lounge chair and it wasn't a "true" sports bike. It didn't matter to me, I was comfortable on it, I felt like I was leaning over the front wheel on his Gixxer.
I think it looks awesome but I do worry about keeping it clean. As well as that, small nicks and scratches can't be buffed out. It's not going to be a show bike. I want to ride it! I also live semi-rural so I think for all those reasons I'll have to skip the matte option.
True... But keeping it clean vs riding it and enjoying it... So hard!
That exact phrase has been in the back of my mind the whole time since I sat on the white one in the shop. It's also a pearl white with blue fleck in it. In the sun it looks amazing! And as you say, different.
Still, classic gloss black with lots of chrome is timeless.
If that's your thought pattern, go white.
I would get sick of parking up next to other black glides at every pub I stopped at.
(My bike is a blue/green/black changing color over light silver with 180 dark silver airbrushed stencil grim reapers.)
I agree. Pearl white with a blue fleck sounds bloody awesome.
No doubt you would do some mods down the track - blacked out with white pearl makes me drool thinking about it??
I changed mine from silver denim (matt silver) to the colour it is now (black cherry arson) and although 6 years old it still gets more looks than most new black bikes. When we go riding nearly all other HD's are black.
well my story - owned dirt bikes and what not. brother in law lives in Melbourne and bought a new naked bike (not idea brand or model)
his first bike, a Honda Magna, was now sitting out front exposed to all the elements (after his 4th bike cover was stolen he gave up covering it) and after his neighbours complaining to the council he asked if i wanted it.
i took it off his hands, thinking last time i saw it - it was a nice bike.
now, not so much. shes VERY tired. i dropped the oil and she look shimmery so i stopped after that.
i had plans to redo the seat, cheaply matt black the whole bike, and service her and get her running again. but now she sits in the corner of the shed, collecting dust.
whats do others think i should do?
1985 GPZ1000rx with trailer
Its undergone a few changes since this shot but havent got one handy.
I think you should restore it to it's original condition.
I picked this up on Monday.
After giving up bikes about 40 years ago I was also bitten by the bug again.
Ive got a few posties, bought my first one when i was 15 and been playing with them ever since.
Here is a 1973 Trail 90 ive been fixing up recently.
Just have to get the indicators working and it needs some new rear shock then im going to get it on historic rego.
Having a walk back through photos. Quite a bike orientated family, Well use to be.
My First Bike. It was a fun little bike you did not have to give 2 shits about.
Here is my brothers FZR1000. After this purchase my father decided it was time to get back on 2 wheels after 20 years.
Here is my GS500F Next to my fathers SV1000S
My brother sold his FZR1000, Then a little while later decided to buy a SV650 Naked. That was a great bike to ride, good amount of power with out going 3 times the speed of sound in 3 seconds.
This photo is my fathers SV1000S next to his partners SV650S. By this time i had sold the GS500F, And she was kind enough to let me go for a ride with the old man.
And now currently, My brother and I are bikeless, And the old man does not have his bikes registered due to the cost of living. Been around 5 years since any of us have been out on the bikes. The itch never dies to be on 2 wheels.
Nice to there are a few other riders on here
My list -
2012 cbr 250 for when I was on my re class licence
2001 fxstdi softail deuce for my first big boy bike
2005 50th anniversary Yamaha YZF R1 - current
Looking to build a Harley in the not to distant future as well
Duno if the pics work but heres the link
lots of nice bikes here
I've had a bike of some description for many years
My first bike - a second hand, very well used 82 Suzuki GSX250 - what a power house lol But necessary back then, no LAMS bikes back then. Was restricted to a 250 and I didn't like 2 strokes. I picked the Suzuki, because I loved the 82 Suzuki GSX1100 Katana as a kid. So this is the closest relative I could ride and afford..... I have fond memories of it, being my first bike, but reality was it was a heavy, poor handling, slow piece of crap
I soon tired of the old slug, and upgraded to a 88 FZR250. That's my younger brother posing there with the bike lol It hammered compared to the old Suzi, but had to rev the crap out of it. 4cylinder 250, about 45hp, 19,000RPM redline! Sounded like a F1 engine at those RPM. It used to sit at around 9000RPM at 100kph, which got annoying after a while.
my current machine 89 Yamaha FZR1000, which I've owned now for around 12 years. I've been gradually restoring it, replacing bits with NOS and parts from Yamaha in the US. It's an awesome bike, had a 1/10 scale model of one in my early 20's, always wanted this exact model. It's got the EXUP valve in the exhaust, so has really strong low and midrange as well as an impressive top end for it's vintage. Was awarded sports bike of the decade in Europe. 145hp, 20 valve, 5 speed gearbox. Back in the day a bike mag test recorded a 10.2 quarter mile time. 0-100 in 2.9 seconds and top speed of around 280kph. Not too shabby for an old girl. Mick Doohan raced them back in the late 80's with success. Love everything about them, apart from adjusting valve clearances which is a prick of a job!
My current bike is a Honda RVF400. I absolutely love it and spend plenty of time at the track on it.
I love the fact that they just don't make bikes like it anymore. Some nifty features are:
- 400cc V4 engine
- Single sided swingarm
- USD forks
- Dual front discs with big calipers
- Great packaging and geometry
- Fantastic handling
I love the fact that they went all out on it as a race replica, rather than letting it become a mass produced bike for the masses.
Since I bought it a few years ago I have done the following:
- Replaced exhaust with full Titanium and Carbon system
- Cleaned, rebuilt and re-jetted carbs
- New tyres and bearings
- Li-ion battery
- Adjustable levers
- Double bubble screen
Here is my build thread:
It's a great feeling on the track when you can battle with much bigger bikes due to the fact that it is a fantastic handling machine.
Well I had an awesome weekend of riding! Test road both the Street Glide...
I had about an hour on the Harley and I still have the Indian. Taking it back at lunch time today. Love they let you have weekend demo rides. Road out to and up/down Mt Macedon yesterday. Saturday afternoon was a ride around Melbourne and surrounds visiting friends who are also keen for a bike but I'm going to be the one that pulls the trigger and starts the process for all of us I think.
So the Harley was impressive. But it's also my first time riding a Harley so I have no Harley baseline so I can't relate to all the "it's SO much better than any Harley ever" hype around the new engine. I can compare it to my Yamaha V Star XVS1100 Classic from years ago though. Better overall but honestly, not $20k+ better). Lots of torque and exceptionally comfy to sit on. There's some vibration through the handlebars which was initially bothersome but I got used to it. All in all though, I wasn't as impressed as I expected myself to be. Certainly not when it comes to the prospect of dropping $38k on one.
Then the Indian. Now I love the Indians but I prefer the looks and sound of the Harley. That's not to say the Indian doesn't look are sound awesome, because it does and does. It's just a personal preference thing. And it was Harleys I had on my wall growing up...
When it comes to riding it though, WOW!!! It shits all over the Harley. So smooth, vibration free, more torque and a feeling of a far more modern bike. It's impressing what they've done - modern engineering in a classic style. It was also more nimble and wanted to turn easier. A credit to both bikes is they do a very good job of shrinking underneath you. By that I mean both of them feel like much smaller bikes when you're riding them. The only negative for the riding experience on the Indian was the tailbone ache. And without wanting to spend $1000+ on a seat to replace the stock one (I did on my $15,000 Yamaha but I don't think it's something you should have to factor in when spending $35,000+ on a bike). The Harley seat I could have sat in all day without a care in the world.
Both bikes had slip on pipes on them and both bike sounded PERFECT to me because of that. Both bikes without them sound like hair dryers (they started stock bikes in the showrooms). The noise was nice without being obnoxious. So it's RRP + pipes + highway pegs as a minimum when I decide which one to buy.
Onto the less substantial... The stereos - Indian wins this one. More powerful and impressive speed dependant volume. I almost never had to adjust the volume. Harley was very tinny and I found myself constantly adjusting the volume. In fairness I didn't spend as much time on the Harley so it may just be getting to know it better. Sat nav - Harley wins. Indian doesn't have it. Controls - Harley wins. More ergonomic and just easier to use. Fairing, in terms of looks Harley wins, in terms of extra driving lights and less buffeting, Indian wins. At 100km + I could electrically raise the windscreen on the Indian and had absolutely zero wind buffeting. Both bikes I credit for having practically no leg wind head buffeting. I had slightly more leg room on the Indian and the Harley wins when it comes to braking. I would, and have, happily ridden bikes without windscreens so the wind issue is only about long ride comfort. Not a deciding factor.
So what am I leaning towards... At this exact point in time I prefer riding the Indian. But I worry about seat comfort. Oh hang on, I forgot, suspension is a lay down mazaire to Indian. WOW! Absorbs all the bumps and just stays smooth and poised the whole time, never unsettled. The Harley is far more floaty and tends to undulate front to rear (see-saw) over bumps which then unsettles the bike. Never feels out of control, just less confident. Granted I had not set the spring tension for me so that can likely be fixed on the Harley. But as they were, I couldn't fault the Indian. But yeah, seat comfort is a worry. It's arguably the most important thing for a tourer. So would I prefer some vibrations or a sore bum?
An interesting bonus to the Indian is the electronic locking (Harley's are key) hard saddle bags. They're quick release on both bikes so you can take them off but on the Indian you still have full fairing so it looks like a Chief Classic at the back. Take the Harley's off and it exposes all the suspension and running gear. Honestly though I can't think of a time you'd want to ride without them. Dumping everything out of my pockets into one, having my jacket and gloves in the other, having wet weather gear, a clear visor, sunnies, etc. I mean, you buy a bagger because you like the bags so...... they'd stay on.
Verdict: I can sort of predict the following conversation at some point in the future.
"You said you loved riding the Indian and preferred the ride to the Harley so why'd you buy the Harley?"
"Because it's a Harley!"
And if there's some inferiorities to it, but I still have a comfortable, enjoyable experience, I can live with them...
But it is a REALLY hard decision. I'd honestly love to have either of them in my garage. I will be test riding them both again in the new year when we're back from Canada and the USA. I will ride them in reverse order this time. Indian first, then onto the Harley.
And to throw a massive spanner in the works, Indian also have the Vintage which looks AMAZING!!!
Indian sound (ignore the video quality - it was shot on a iPhone 6 Plus but sent via a shitty mobile data connection so the phone dropped the quality a lot).
Enjoy the process Sheldon. Good luck with whichever one you buy. (My choice would be the Indian, if I was into that style of bike.) Also as you'll see below, I think gloss black is the way to go!
I have had well over 25 bikes over the last 45 years since I got my license. Many sport bikes including 2 Zx12R Kawasakis. I now have 3 Triumph Speed Triples, a 1996, a 2004 and a 2010 as my main bike. For me, the Speed Triple is the perfect bike. I do everything on it including touring. This is my 2010 model,
This is the 2004
A recent one, 2.3lt Triumph Rocket 3
That is a nice clean bike. I hope you don't mind me saying this, but if you haven't been riding for 40 years, it would be a real good idea to do some rider training. Guys who return to riding after 30-40 years are well over represented in accident statistics, many of them thinking they know it all. Just saying......
Wow Chewie! They look awesome! Definitely one of the more unusual frames I've seen. Comfy? Must be for touring. Looks like a similar riding position to my B King... I really wish I had have kept that bike!
Found some old old pics of my V Star XVS1100A Classic...
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