2008 VE Anniversity Electric Window wont work

[VFSV6FORME]

my car is completely dead for all the windows, no clicking no nothing dead 4 windows. I have to find the relay because Youtube test tell you that sometime the main consol switch is gone but the rear door windows work so you have another problem. Look where the relays are.

 

[Fu Manchu]

I bet it’s the switch.

 

[VFSV6FORME]

I bet it’s the switch.

Yes Checked the power on the fuse/circuit breaker on the footwell and it has power up the top virtually nil down the bottom but I did notice the 2AMP fuse RAP Control PWR WDO has no power either side if I have the ignition on. Anyhow I am going outside now to remove the switch.

 

[VFSV6FORME]

Right!!!
I have the switch off and used the multi meter and found NO VOLTAGE on the 7 pins large connector. Tried it when the engine is running. the small connector.

What bothers me is that the black connector with 20 odd pins, this video shows its the window connector not the big white 7 pin connector but when I leave that 20 pin black connector off from the switch the mirrors dont work. So i expect the black one should be the mirrors and the white big socket with 7 pins is for the windows and has no power on them on any pin when the engine is running.

 

[lout]

a lot of those youtube diagnostic videos only address one type of fault, they are not actually a diagnostic
Lh kick panel fuse box, the two 20amp are circuit breakers
breaker 1 20a should have power both sides
breaker 2 20a will only have power with ignition on reds or running
Relay Rap1 ,R1, should have power on terminal 30 remove relay and check socket
edit- this diagram is poorly printed
do the led light up on rear door switches
fuse 24 2a only has power after bcm energises relay
once you do those checks will have more idea where to look

 

[VFSV6FORME]

a lot of those youtube diagnostic videos only address one type of fault, they are not actually a diagnostic
Lh kick panel fuse box, the two 20amp are circuit breakers
breaker 1 20a should have power both sides
breaker 2 20a will only have power with ignition on reds or running
Relay Rap1 ,R1, should have power on terminal 30 remove relay and check socket
edit- this diagram is poorly printed
do the led light up on rear door switches
fuse 24 2a only has power after bcm energises relay
once you do those checks will have more idea where to look

there is two 20 amp fuses or breakers. One is for the electric drivers side seats marked Power Seats (B3-20A) and the second breaker is Power Windows RAP (B2-20A). There is no fuse or breaker in Power Windows Battery (B1-20A). If i check the Power Windows RAP with the fuse out only the top has 12V. No 12V on the other side (possibly a back feed), yes nothing. Also the 4 buttons illuminate (switch in the centre of the console) when I open the drivers door.

 

[VFSV6FORME]

Could it be the automatic window up/down module or whatever they call is? It is possible it is called the power window control module?

 

[lout]

hold on, flicking between several diagrams at the moment

 

[lout]

if the rap relay is not energising you will not get power to the window control module

 

[lout]

do you have capability to make a 20a fused wire with male spade terminals on it