commodore665
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Gemini it up.
That'll work
Welcome to Just Commodores, a site specifically designed for all people who share the same passion as yourself.
Gemini it up.
Look, no doubt they go pretty good in a light car. Mine went good, was definately fun to drive. However, i got to the point where i was going to have to throw a lot more money at it to go any faster as i'd gone about as far as you can go in terms of bolt on mods. Sure, people like Decicrate have certainly pushed the envelope to see how far they can go and i respect that, but for me i decided to go for what i thought was a better option for my situation. With bolt on mods, you get pretty good power for dollar value, but IMO, once you start cracking open the engine, that power for dollar value diminishes.
For the record, i am in no way trying to run down the L67, i think they're not a bad thing, that's just my experience/thoughts.
The good thing about when you post is that you have actually had a L67, and for quite sometime followed the L67 scene so you actually know what you are on about.
So many arm chair experts on this forum that have not got a single clue at all about what they are talking about.......
I thought there was some silly posts in this thread, but that by far takes the cake as the most silly.
But we all said pretty much the exact same thing.
They are not a bad engine, if you have the cash to throw at it.
As soon as you get past the bolt on mods, they are expensive to get what is in comparison, smaller power from. It doesnt take owning one to know this nor should it be a requirement of owning one to comment on that FACT. Ive seen countless people both on forums and in my friend circle spend thousands upon thousands on L67s and barely crack what a VX SS has with a tune and OTR and this is my one and only beef with this engine.
I dont have an issue with anyone who wants to modify or who owns an L67, everyone has a tuned LS and a good L67 is surprising. What I have an issue with is the assumption from some people that they are easy to get power from and people who expect similar power figures to other engines.
Unsure why you keep using my first name.
But anywho. You cannot see how you posting the incorrect information and making the claim that the Super 6 was faster than the V8 could start an argument? Thats exactly the same as someone saying "Buy a V8".
Jecs, the laws are changing again, but currently in Vic, you cannot drive any petrol car with forced induction, turbo diesels etc are fine in some instances. From memory under the new laws coming in the Calais SC6 were ok, although not entirely sure. They havent applied to me in 5 years so I havent bothered to researc
I always thought , that Holden missed a chance to really develop the L67, but lets be honest it's a dated engine
My comments are based on facts and experience.
Facts:
Standard Ecotec: 152 kW (204 hp)
L67 running 6psi of boost: 171 kW (229 hp)
An extra 19kW (25 hp) from 6psi, or to put it another way, an extra 12.5% power from an increase in VE of approximately 40%, or to put it yet another way, "they are ****".
Experience:
Having driven both the stock and charged versions of the ecotec, and also having spent 18 months developing my own charged buick 3800 running 6psi. It was pulling 220kW (295hp) out of a well used 3800 with an SC14 at 6psi.