Downgrade - SSV Redline to SS

[panhead]

I've owned both FE2 and FE3 Utes and when puttering around I couldn't tell the difference and when pushed both are crap.

But what do you expect when the ride height is like this from the factory.

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[woooo]

Won't notice unless on a track most likely

 

[426Cuda]

i havent driven an SS yet. ive driven 2x series 2 redline utes now, one auto and one manual. both felt like they had shocking body roll and wanted to oversteer. The 2000-2004 model BMW coupes ive owned cornered far far better which is a worry. yes i know the ute can carry 700kgs ( or 5 fat passengers) on the back but we are talking 15 years of technical progression in suspension since a E46 coupe

Comparing a BMW coupe to a ute. Yeah ok.
The Chevy SS sedan (FE3) has been tested and compared against the E39 M5 and outperformed it. Old Yes, but considered the benchmark. Until now.
Body roll doesn't necessarily mean poor handling by the way.

 

[panhead]

Comparing a BMW coupe to a ute. Yeah ok.
The Chevy SS sedan (FE3) has been tested and compared against the E39 M5 and outperformed it. Old Yes, but considered the benchmark. Until now.
Body roll doesn't necessarily mean poor handling by the way.

Cuda you're right as it depends on how much lean compared to how fast you’re going.

At similar speeds my BMW has a firm factory ride which when cornering makes me feel more connected to the road compared to my VF2 Commodore where Holden has compromised more towards the comfort side over connection.

There is nothing wrong with that until you start to push the vehicle hard then that roll starts to slow the car's reaction time when changing direction and eats away at your confidence in its road holding ability.

At a very basic improvement level, lowering the ride height (the centre of gravity) with proper damping and spring rates is a good way to start decreasing that roll and speeding things up for when you get into the twisty bits.

I should also add we all have different degrees to what we believe is comfortable and when you experience well setup suspension packages you do notice more the limitations of some of the factory systems.


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[daz_au]

I ordered my VF2 SS Wagon after test driving SS v SSVR back to back on average roads under the same conditions I would use the car. I decided they both handled like a 2 tonne wagon so I got the cheaper one !

 

[markalan1two]

i havent driven an SS yet. ive driven 2x series 2 redline utes now, one auto and one manual. both felt like they had shocking body roll and wanted to oversteer. The 2000-2004 model BMW coupes ive owned cornered far far better which is a worry. yes i know the ute can carry 700kgs ( or 5 fat passengers) on the back but we are talking 15 years of technical progression in suspension since a E46 coupe

i know both the BMW and the ute have two doors but the similarities end their. Its like comparing a plane and a helicopter, both fly but with different intentions/purpose.

 

[monstar]

in terms of actual track performance, verified lap times around the ‘Ring, the VF Redline Ute is a closer to a BMW Z8 E52, Alpina B3 Biturbo Coupe, 1 Series M Coupe, Alpina B6 S. Of course it’s the fastest commercial vehicle around the Green Hell.
How does your coupe compare to those models?

 

[BLACK-VE]

I ordered my VF2 SS Wagon after test driving SS v SSVR back to back on average roads under the same conditions I would use the car. I decided they both handled like a 2 tonne wagon so I got the cheaper one !

I like that way of thinking, I was after a redline but hate leather/ head hit the roof(stupid sunroof) so the SS was a easy choice for me to.

 

[MYVESSV8]

I've owned both FE2 and FE3 Utes and when puttering around I couldn't tell the difference and when pushed both are crap.

But what do you expect when the ride height is like this from the factory.

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stop driving a 4x4 ute panhead (lol) still like it
as most have said revised springs, shocks, bars can fix most

 

[VS 5.0]

stop driving a 4x4 ute panhead (lol) still like it

Waits for panhead to upload the correct pics......