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JC Political Thread - For all things political Part 2

Discussion in 'The Pub' started by minux, Apr 4, 2011.

  1. Jxfwsf

    Jxfwsf Well-Known Member

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    To make this fun i'll throw in a multiple choice answer:
    A) I'm disgusted
    B) I'm outraged
    C) I'm not surprised

    now to work out how i can pull $329.41176470588235294117647058824 per head and mash arts & crafts into a 1 day course.....
     
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    you didn't put in D) All of above..... lol
     
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    Jxfwsf Well-Known Member

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    If it gave the people taking part something to do and they learnt how to color within the lines then the tax dollars were well spent.
    Pretty sure less requirements are needed for general customer service jobs.
     
  4. minux

    minux Infidel Bear

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    Wow...so much self pity in the last pages of posts.

    Some of you really need to realise that only you are in charge of what happens in life, not the government, not a business.

    If you do not like where your life is, do something about it ffs and stop whinging about how hard it all is.
     
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    High Court injunction blocks handover of 153 asylum seekers to Sri Lanka - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

    apparently, old tone's turn back the boats is illegal under international law, which most of us already know, but it's now getting challenged in australia.

    looks like it could be challenged soon with all those refugees suing the government and all.
     
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    Suing the government, what a joke.
     
  7. Reaper

    Reaper Tells it like it is.

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    The High Court injunction says nothing of the sort. It simply prevents the repatriation of these people until the matter can be heard. It will be interesting weather Australia's courts even have jurisdiction as (presumably) it happens way out to sea not in Australian waters.
     
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    Jesterarts Your freedom ends where mine begins

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    I think that about sums up these 'refugees'
     
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    So you're saying the ABC is biased?

    I'm pretty sure just about every PM we've had in the last 40 years has complained about bias from the ABC, regardless of what side of the spectrum they are from.
     
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    Of course it bloody well is!

    From the 3rd July...

     
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    Grennan Slayer of Stupid Threads

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    As I said on Chatbox the other day.

    The ABC is about as impartial as a single mother of 7 from Frankston.

    The ABC is incredibly left leaning. Yes, they have criticized Labor Governments in the past but typically its on policies that are more right leaning, eg Refugees.

    More often than not though, both of their interests are close enough.

    Like most news outlets though, there are people who are worse than others. I wouldnt say the Herald Sun is particularly bias one way or the other, but Andrew Bolt for example is incredibly bias and depending on what youre reading it can appear as if they are.
     
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    So the ABC is biased but murdoch's press (which most consider a tool for pushing the liberal agenda) isn't?
     
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    nathanVY such boost

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    This is such a pathetically weak argument. The ABC is paid for by all of us, therefore it need to be unbiased. You don't like murdoch media don't buy it, or don't watch it. Nobody's making you, they do not use taxpayers money to push a political agenda - they use their own.
     
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    You're missing the point. The ABC is PUBLICLY owned. I.e. it's OWNED by all the people of Australia. If ever there was a media outlet that should be 100% apolitical, the ABC is it. The ABC desperately needs a MASSIVE clean out.
     
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    Reaper Tells it like it is.

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    Overall, in Australia, I'd say Newscorp is bias against the incumbent - whichever side that may be. Oh and the ABC, being a publicly owned entity and operates under a special charter is obligated to be impartial which is not something a privately owned organization is obligated to do (no matter how cockamammy their point of view may be)
     
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    Who said that?

    There is no doubt that journalists have personal biases. Yes, they do tend to gravitate to media outlets that permit them to say what they wish to say. As a voter, and taxpayer, for over forty years, I am disgusted that my taxes are supporting an organisation that was once reasonably balanced to one now that is regularly being caught peddling lies, or ignoring news that was not supportive of the left spectrum. Guess what? My taxes do not support the Murdoch Press.

    My biggest issue with the modern version of "boat people" is not ideological. Have you ever been to a real refugee camp? There are lots of people there who really NEED help from safer and more affluent societies. Cue jumpers and economic refugees are, in my humble opinion, trying to steal safety from those who are demonstrably more in need.

    The international laws and agreements re refugees were devised in an era when these migration refugees were not even thought of, and are arguably being taken advantage of by those who look for a way to use them for there own benefit. Arguably that also occurs to some extent by those who chose to qualify for welfare rather than support themselves. Such people reduce the ability of the system to actually help those who really need it.

    A relatively wealthy country like Australia should, and does, help. But Australia should determine who we take, not the UN and certainly not ruthless business people willing to risk the lives of their clients to make easy money by taking advantage of a generous (or could that be gullible) benefactor.
     
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    Reaper Tells it like it is.

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    Talking to some people in the media industry the ABC is like the big stereotyped fat government department that is about as efficient as an overstuffed custard donut.
     
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    OK, one and only one post on the ABC's purported bias. We have been through this before. There have been studies done that show no bias or slightly to the LNP side bias.

    Study finds ABC bias leans towards Coalition
    http://www.fabc.org.au/uploads/1/9/7/4/19742359/the_abc_the_facts_aug07.pdf
    Is the ABC biased and inefficient? Here's what the data says | Media | theguardian.com
    ParlInfo - ABC to enter new era

    Howard thought so, so Howard stacked the ABC with Libs, remember Flint etc? They were still considered biased!
    Abbott and the fanbois think it still is, so Abbott wants to put Albrechtsen onto the board of ABC/SBS, they will still be biased.

    The problem I see is that biased people, filtering data through their own bias, will always see the ABC/SBS or any relatively unbiased organisation as biased when in fact it is their own bias that is causing them to perceive something they don't agree with, as bias. Your aspersions against the ABC are just an indication of the level of your own bias.

    It's you all that are biased, not the ABC. You can't bear anyone telling the truth if it doesn't accord with your bias.

    edit: And using the Pickering Post as a source does you no favours as an unbiased observer.
     
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    First off... Larry Pickering is completely unbiased. If anything he's traditionally left leaning. Suggest you take your foot out of your mouth on that one.

    Secondly, your links are all pre-2009. Other than one based on election coverage. But keep posting. I enjoy watching fail. :D
     

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