Yeah I do get what your saying but to get the ve ute manual in white for a good price is not as easy as you mite think,,i managed to pik this one up in mint cond with really nice wheels in white for a very good price as the motor isnt going,,perfect car to get a donor in and do the build,,i have already done the research as to donors and yeah i know its the cheaper option as all the parts are there to be changed over,,but my question was what parts are needed so i can change them outa the donor if infact thats the way i go,,i mite find an ls2 and manual for a decent price private and find most of the parts from another vehicle for a really good price who knows,,but im not going to go buying just any part in my head that i think i mite need,,its obviously a better idea to ask the questions,,sqeaky wheel gets the oil remember so for ive had kinda negative comments and noone to actually give me a list of what exactly i needed which is the purpose of this thread,,and like i said in another comment really its irelavent weather i can do the build,,just because i didnt mention i could do it doesnt mean im not capable,,people are too quik to judge,,i wrote a little story about a rodeo that i was told you couldnt put a vz engine in because theyre different,,no way they said,,cant be done they said,,weve tried and it doesnt work,looms are different they have 2 cams yada yada yada,and that was holden on the gold coast,,but i cracked it and got it running perfect and not in limp mode and people have taken my advice and theyre rodeos are still running today with a vz engine,,hows that for a backyarder telling holden something they knew nuthing about,,honestly i shoulda got a job from thatone but anyway off topic,,its up to me weather i think its worth spending the money i just thought asking for some help with the list would be a good start,,but i guess im on my own to figure it out like a big boy,,