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Discussion in 'VF Holden Commodore (2013 - 2017)' started by revster, Feb 2, 2019.

  1. revster

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    Forg, what you say about DSG is true for the older ones, especially the dry clutch one. The newer 6 and 7 speed wet clutch boxes seem very reliable. Very little negative stuff on the net about the wet clutch versions. I love them.
     
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    Remember that well....You have to take a rag with you, to stop the drool dropping on the floor....
     
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    Time creates new icons...
    I recall reading an article where they did the survey with holden commodore owners and they found that large portion of owners were considering KIA Stinger as their next car...
    The only 'problema with kia currently is the badge. That will change....
     
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    Yeah it seems like the old shitboxes that some were, when we first started seeing them have come a long way in recent years.
     
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    I love Kia as a brand but dont want a performance sedan at that price point. If I was an office worker I'd pick one up but I love the carry capacity for home and work.

    I'd love a ZB as a daily run about but once again doesnt fit our functions for the price.

    Looking at a dual cab ute for the misses next for function and economy or maybe a hybrid rav4. But it's at least a year away.
     
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    That's more indicative of the person who dislikes the badge rather than the badge itself..

    Kia produce some fine automobiles these days.
     
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    One thing I didn’t get ‘til I had a Better Half was the safety thing; I just feel a helluva lot better with her in the VF (in which she’s less likely to hit other stuff than the VS & also in which she’s safer in case something ran into her). I imagine people with kids even more so.
     
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    Absolutely, My Mrs is going back to work full time next fortnight after 12mths maternity leave and on the days when i'm home (i work shifts) she'll be taking the VS. Thankfully it's only to and from the train station, but it's a shiity old base exec with no airbags or even ABS, so i'm a little nervous to say the least. I much rather her in the Carnival, but that's the family car so i'll need it to cart the kids.

    Absolutely, I have three, the two youngest (2 and 7mths) don't travel in the VS, because i wouldn't have their carseats in it, and the 10 year old only does when there is no other option. When it dies, i'll look at a VE or something similar.
     
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    That's what i meant. The perception of the badge. The brand is perfectly fine
     
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    My boss bought a Sportage and he loves it. I was a bit like hmmmm, Kia really. Must say my only experience with them was the older Carnivals. I drove the work bus once or twice and it was scary dangerous. It took off like a bastard yet the brakes felt like they were never going to pull me up and this bus was 2 months old. It was such a POS I refused to ever drive it again.
     
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    Sorry Ron, I got what you meant and was agreeing with you :)
     
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    But that's not fair, nothing or no-one can.




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    You haven't met my Mrs..
     
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    From what I have read, unfortunately the Stinger appears to be a one off. Kia created it as a hero car for brand image and in an interview indicated that they were not going to continue with the model. The sales numbers are not exactly stellar (here and abroad) which will probably cement this view point. Happy to be wrong about it though.
     
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    I never rated the VS, VT and up or bust.
     
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    The "sporty" Kia cars are getting better each time (comparing the Stinger to the Pro-Ceed GT). If they keep making them in little bursts and then stopping, what's the point? It will take time for their brand reputation to grow to the point where they will sell a decent amount of these cars, they need to keep the momentum and keep going in my opinion.
     
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    I’m really intrigued as to how the Genesis g70 is priced. Seems just that little bit nicer than the Stinger.
     
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    I'll second that. I've had many Holden's over the years, two I've regretted selling (an LX Torana hatch and a VX SS Commodore), and one bought back off a guy I had sold it to a couple of years prior (yes, wife thought I was crazy, but she actually helped me during the process).

    I'll be hanging onto my VF for as long as I can and I'm still able to drive the thing. I know mechanically things will eventually start going on it, including the various electronics they have packed into it, but I'll be happy to keep repairing it so long as the parts don't start becoming too expensive. I'm sure given the volumes of VF's produced there will be a good supply for years to come.

    Being an SSV, it's not going to be a "rare classic", but it will be something that we will never be able to buy again, which is a car made here for us Aussies (and the Yanks who have taken a liking to the best car Holden ever produced).
     
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    They seem to be taking their sweet time releasing it, work is right near Hyundai HQ and there've been G70's around for many months now.
    It's going to be a smaller car than the Stinger though, smaller overall including shorter wheelbase; probably more Mazda6 sized (and I'd guess appreciably smaller than a ZB).
    I think I read something about it being about $5k over a Stinger, although if it's like the G80 with such a wide range of option-pack prices the ~$65k version may not be as equipmenty as the top Stinger (but obviously that's pure speculation).
     
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