Petrol expected to hit $2 a Litre

[doms1]

We all need it so it's a fact of llife,go diesel.My vito returns 750-820 around town ,fully loaded aircon on.

 

[Darren_L]

We all need it so it's a fact of llife,go diesel.My vito returns 750-820 around town ,fully loaded aircon on.

yeah fuel consumption is usually less on a diesel, however if you plan on keeping the car for a while, you need to look at the bigger picture
Whilst many diesels are more economical on fuel, compare the service/repair costs of the average diesel over it's life compared to an average petrol engine.
In most cases it doesn't look so good for the diesel. We have 3 diesel Colorado's in our fleet at work that had to get the injectors replaced at 60-70,000kms due to failures. $6000 - not covered by warranty. That's a lot of fuel..... A full set of injectors for most petrol engines would cost less than $1000

 

[kuzman89]

The larger vehicle has effectively just had a 40km/h collision with a fixed object and the smaller vehicle an 80km/h collision with a fixed object, not survivable for the occupants of the smaller vehicle.

Thanks for clearing that up torch.

without going to much off topic. There are plenty of reasons why someone doesn't want to drive a small buzzbox to save a few dollars of fuel every week. Might have a family, be used for work, or even just the comfort of a larger car. Plenty of room for 5 people on big trips. So saying "get a smaller car" isn't always applicable. Especially in my case, I'd be using heaps more fuel driving a 4 cylinder with no guts.

 

[DAVIDC]

LPG FTW.

Honestly so annoying though.

 

[satos]

Thank you.

He's talking about Crumple zones.

 

[torch]

Thanks for clearing that up torch.

without going to much off topic. There are plenty of reasons why someone doesn't want to drive a small buzzbox to save a few dollars of fuel every week. Might have a family, be used for work, or even just the comfort of a larger car. Plenty of room for 5 people on big trips. So saying "get a smaller car" isn't always applicable. Especially in my case, I'd be using heaps more fuel driving a 4 cylinder with no guts.

Whilsts headons perhaps are rare, being caught up in a Liberace shuffle or Rock Hudson rendezvous is a lot more common and here mass is also a big factor in survivability, also interestingly the ancap ratings dont factor in testing for if you are the "pillow" (rather than the rock) in such a collison.

 

[Stressball]

yeah fuel consumption is usually less on a diesel, however if you plan on keeping the car for a while, you need to look at the bigger picture
Whilst many diesels are more economical on fuel, compare the service/repair costs of the average diesel over it's life compared to an average petrol engine.
In most cases it doesn't look so good for the diesel. We have 3 diesel Colorado's in our fleet at work that had to get the injectors replaced at 60-70,000kms due to failures. $6000 - not covered by warranty. That's a lot of fuel..... A full set of injectors for most petrol engines would cost less than $1000

Out of curiosity, was that injectors, or does the colorado use a common rail setup where the solenoids failed? Individual injectors aren't so common in new diesel engines, just wondering if the cost of repair would stay that high on common rail.

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[NVMYVT]

yeah fuel consumption is usually less on a diesel, however if you plan on keeping the car for a while, you need to look at the bigger picture
Whilst many diesels are more economical on fuel, compare the service/repair costs of the average diesel over it's life compared to an average petrol engine.
In most cases it doesn't look so good for the diesel. We have 3 diesel Colorado's in our fleet at work that had to get the injectors replaced at 60-70,000kms due to failures. $6000 - not covered by warranty. That's a lot of fuel..... A full set of injectors for most petrol engines would cost less than $1000

and thats the exact price any idiot would expect to pay when sending there diesel to a specialist,,,,,,, you can garantee (spelling) the injectors did not cost anywhere near that much, but the mechanic put a massive amount on that as labour, which is rediculous, as changing injectors on a diesel is no more involved than changing plugs on an LS1

 

[Jesterarts]

Well no, the frontal offset impact rating is evaluated on collision with a car of equal mass going at equal speed, they just test running the car into a barrier at 64km/h.

You can compare the safety to vehicles of equal mass, but extrapolating it to lighter versus heavier cars, ie will a 4 rating heavy car be better off in a frontal impact with a 5 rating smaller car, probably, but they dont give enough details of how the final rating is calculated.

The side impact is with a fixed mass getting fired into the side of the car, so this is comparable as is the pole impact test as it doesnt involve another vehicle.

I agree with torch... wtf is the world coming too.

But this is a topic that I have covered several times with various people who take ancap as a final say on the matter.

While ancap is a good START for comparing cars, in a vehicle vs vehicle collision mass comes into play.

If two 5 star cars are coming together, you want to be in the heavier one.

If your about to plow into a big arse tree, then you just want to be in a 5 start ancap rated car.

So technically if we use an ancap rating as a constant, bigger is still safer.

However, after some research into ANCAP testing, I think it's flawed if we are talking directly rating occupant survivability in a collision.

It takes things into account such as ESP and seatbelt reminders are things that can improve a cars ANCAP rating but will make no difference when you crash into a tree.

 

[MasterOfReality]

With fuel going up, maybe my daily commute to the city will be quicker. Whatever the price, we need it or people will just have to seek alternatives.

At the moment, public transport for me and the missus works out to $16 per day. Early bird parking in the city is $16.

We drive her XC Barina in - averages 6.5 L/100km. Pretty good, and at the moment its worth forking out the extra in fuel and Brisbane's public transport system is notoriously unreliable on the westside.