Service ESP

[Daniel Souza]

I really appreciate the fact you guys are finding time to reply me.
I have tried disabling traction control and driving it didn’t help me

90% of the time problem comes when I am on the freeway driving 80 or 100 kph
Car jerks for a second then esp service message and car looses its power
Then I need to race the rpm to 3 to keep 100 on the freeway but once exited the freeway at the lights my car limps to get to 40 then moves well

I am not joking when I pour the water on ECU(computer) and then start again
Car get backs to normal but the problem reappears after sometime or some days

I purchased brand new computer from Holden and programmed it
I have my appointment at Bundoora Holden on 27th of this month

But before going there I am looking for valuable advices here from the experts

I was treated very badly at Holden Doncaster they kept my car for nearly 2 weeks and what they said they cudnt find what’s going on but they said they did realigned the wiring.
One thing was solved My power steering never failed after that but sometimes I get that message service power steering

Today it happened once car lost its power
When I stopped and reversed the car for a bit and then again I drove it’s started normal like a gud car

@https://forums.justcommodores.com.au/members/imranallys.173447/
Mate, listen
If you want to try to achieve something and get some help from people from this forum do the following:
Super cheap auto has a very cheap obd2 scanner. Stop by there buy it and check the current and/or pending fault code.

If you don’t want to buy the scanner they offer the service of reading the codes for you.

Do that, post the results here and we , maybe, will be able to help you.


And next time get a Toyota to do this kind of job.

 

[BlackVXGTS]

There is no esc button mate Will try seeing in manual

Here you are. The other picture I posted was incorrect for a VF1.

 

[Skylarking]

@Imranallys it seems there can be a number of issues in our cars where the underlying cause could be the battery. Came across one post today so have a look here as an example where a poor battery results in service ESP message and vehicle going into limp home mode.

There are others issues due to poor batteries scattered around the forum, another being starting issues on inclines. So a poor battery could be the underlying cause for the problems you are having.

In any case, I’d suspect you have taken your car to a dealer so curious what they found.

 

[Forg]

with service only every 15,000kms

If you’re doing nearly 100k kms per year, 15k service imtervals are fine. None of the consumables would deteriorate due to time, just due to usage; can’t see a problem with that.

 

[Skylarking]

If you’re doing nearly 100k kms per year, 15k service imtervals are fine. None of the consumables would deteriorate due to time, just due to usage; can’t see a problem with that.

Most manufacturers have a normal service schedule and a harsh service schedule. The one to follow depends on usage.

Oil doesn’t degrade due to time, it degrades to to heat and heat cycling. Long periods of idle and large portion of driving within city stop start conditions, especially during summer, would mandate a harsh service schedule due to the oil having a harsher environment to work within. Thus taxi and police fleets would normally fall under this harsh schedule category. And that’s just considering engine oil... there is also diff and gearbox oils and other components that the manufacturer deems need more frequent servicing under harsh usage scenarios.

Being that I thought you were an advocate of mid service oil changes, why is a 15k service interval now ok for a taxi?

 

[Imranallys]

@Imranallys it seems there can be a number of issues in our cars where the underlying cause could be the battery. Came across one post today so have a look here as an example where a poor battery results in service ESP message and vehicle going into limp home mode.

There are others issues due to poor batteries scattered around the forum, another being starting issues on inclines. So a poor battery could be the underlying cause for the problems you are having.

In any case, I’d suspect you have taken your car to a dealer so curious what they found.

I took the car to the Holden dealer on 27 December.They kept my car for whole day and returned me next afternoon

They said me they keep on testing my car for various issues but cudnt fine any major issues just normal misfiring and jerks
They changed spark plugs which they said were gone completely bad and burned.Apparently they tested my car for another 5 hrs and said they cudnt find any ESP code on it and returned it to me
Head Mechanic said me sometimes problems come due to Spark plugs now most likely it shud be fine
I was billed $450 and took back my car
It seemed like improved pickup and car was running very smooth
Felt v happy and sensed this is gone now.
But to my horror it came back next day engine light with ESP message car up and car again into limo mode
Felt horrible thought like straight away selling the car and buying the new one.But it’s very hard to find new or good condition caprice these days

Tried calling back Holden service again but as it is a holiday season very less people are working nobody responded my voicemail and calls
Next day I got a call from Holden Service review team and they asked me ratings abt service.
I said them my horror story and immediately they promised a call back with their head mechanic
He called in next 15
He said me to drop the car on the 2nd Jan which I did.
They kept the car whole business day I got a call around 5 pm stating to collect my car back
I was informed there is no problem at all in engine as they did multiple tests and check electrical part and cudnt find any issue
But he informed me vapouriser (gas converter) is bleeding and it needs to be checked
As they are not authorised to do the gas part I need to take my car to the authorised gas technician
He said it might be or not OR it may be or may not be due to gas converter

Now I am searching for a gud gas technician who will change or fix my gas converter
Still my car jerks and randomly that ESP error comes up

 

[Skylarking]

Ah, OK, sorry to hear that (though i'd question the use of the phrase 'normal' in congunction with 'misfiring and jerks').

You didn't previously mention your caprice was LPG though you did mention in one of your posts that the car uses more gas. I took the 'gas' reference to be an american term for petrol that is sometimes used by a few downunder. Anyway, as a Caprice was available with factory LPG, i'd assume any Holden dealer should be able to service such a Holden product without offloading you to another specialist. So, i am surprised they sent you away and left you to find someone to service a Holden LPG system. But just to confirm, is your caprice a factory fitted LPG system, the LPG compliance plate should give a hint at that...?

As to fault finding, surely the service guys can indicate exactly what if any hard and pending fault codes were seen? Without such concrete information, it seems the various dealers are just changing parts hopeing to hit paydirt (pun intended). Taking your car from place to place also doesn't help. All this combines and it's hardly a constructive fault finding process.

As mentioned in my pervious post, it may be the battery which is the cause of the ESP service message. The battery may be the original one that came with the car and if that's the case it's close to 4 years old now so likley close to the end of its use by date. Testing a battery is rather a simple process that even the staff at Autobarn or Supercheap can do (as long as they know or are told the CCA of the old battery). A new battery is like $220 from Autobarn and they'll test the old one first before putting the new one in for you. It's hadly a huge cost in comparison to what you've already spent and it may be worth the punt...

Other than that, i can't offer anything more constructive.

 

[Imranallys]

Ah, OK, sorry to hear that (though i'd question the use of the phrase 'normal' in congunction with 'misfiring and jerks').

You didn't previously mention your caprice was LPG though you did mention in one of your posts that the car uses more gas. I took the 'gas' reference to be an american term for petrol that is sometimes used by a few downunder. Anyway, as a Caprice was available with factory LPG, i'd assume any Holden dealer should be able to service such a Holden product without offloading you to another specialist. So, i am surprised they sent you away and left you to find someone to service a Holden LPG system. But just to confirm, is your caprice a factory fitted LPG system, the LPG compliance plate should give a hint at that...?

As to fault finding, surely the service guys can indicate exactly what if any hard and pending fault codes were seen? Without such concrete information, it seems the various dealers are just changing parts hopeing to hit paydirt (pun intended). Taking your car from place to place also doesn't help. All this combines and it's hardly a constructive fault finding process.

As mentioned in my pervious post, it may be the battery which is the cause of the ESP service message. The battery may be the original one that came with the car and if that's the case it's close to 4 years old now so likley close to the end of its use by date. Testing a battery is rather a simple process that even the staff at Autobarn or Supercheap can do (as long as they know or are told the CCA of the old battery). A new battery is like $220 from Autobarn and they'll test the old one first before putting the new one in for you. It's hadly a huge cost in comparison to what you've already spent and it may be worth the punt...

Other than that, i can't offer anything more constructive.

My car is factory fitted LPG
And I upgraded the car with a very powerful battery just 6 months ago
And even got all the battery connections checked whether they are loosely fitted or faulty

Head mechanic said me Jerks and misfiring might be due to gas converter
I ll go for it on Monday

 

[White Swan]

It's time to bypass the dealership and contact Holden's customer service direct to have the problem logged with them.
Have all your details including the times spent with the dealership at hand.
One day in the dealership obviously isn't enough time to pinpoint the problem.

 

[Imranallys]

Can you pls tell me how to do that?
Previously my car was at different Holden dealership for 12 days
After they returned the car the problem came back after 3 months
They said they just realigned the wiring and removed the carbon from all electrical points
Am waiting to get that vapourizer done
After that if the problem still persists
I ll be clueless