SSV Redline cranks wont fire

[dassaur]

No there's no smell at all while it's cranking and not firing.

I've had the vehicle for 9 years straight from factory. Was walkinshawed 2 days outta factory. Only started playing up 2 months ago.

Fuel pump is now brand new. I'll mention sensor the the mechanics when I can get it back in there.

Yeah that photo is exactly what they showed me with a burnt out socket. If that's the case, nothing was mentioned about the harness. I will tell mechanic and ask to replace the harness.

That burnt out socket IS the harness. I'd be surprised if they didnt replace it.

 

[Dawgyz]

So that hose with the burnt socket is the whole harness itself?

I've just got off the phone to them. They replaced the fuel pump and plugged the SAME socket back in. Now, even common sense would dictate if the thing looks so burnt to get a new one. So I've requested a new harness to be installed asap.

 

[Skylarking]

The fuel pump connector is a known defect which Holden would repair gratis, even in out of factory warranty vehicles (in many instances). This was especially if the owner is aware of their Australian Consumer Law (ACL) statutory warranty rights.

Sad that all dealer and 3rd party mechanics who claim specialist knowledge of Holdens aren’t aware of this fuel pump connector issue

This connector which cause the issue seems to be either not up to the task of providing the required current to the fuel pump due to pin size or a batch of them had poor female connector pin tension or both

Either way it’s a fubar on Holdens side and you shouldn’t have to cover the cost… May be time to send the invoice to Holden?

PS: in instances of this occurring, I don’t remember that in all cases the fuel pump itself was replaced… In some cases fixing the connector fixed the problem…

PPS: who’s “they”? A dealer or 3rd party mechanic. In either case I’d be livid given the fact the changed the pump and simply pushed the faulty burnt out connector back on and called it a day May be time to find a better mechanic to look after you

 

[panhead]

Did you see the old pump, maybe they just gave the terminals a clean to get it going.





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[Dawgyz]

They are a bridgestone mechanic that I've taken it too a few times now aa the closest "previous" Holden dealer is 45km away.

They (Bridgestone) told me the connector would still be fine after a bit of cleaning. It clearly looked burnt out though and had started to melt the plastic cover on the old fuel pump itself.

Yeah I daw the new fuel pump and old one. It's definitely a new pump. Really looking like this faulty harness connector is the problem. I've requested a new harness asap.

 

[Skylarking]

@Dawgyz, does your 2014 SSV have the fuel pump access hatch under the rear seat?

I can’t remember when Holden stopped fitting fuel pump access hatch to the cars. Mid VE comes to mind but not sure so thought I’d ask.

Having a fuel pump (and sender) access hatch makes life much easy when those components need to be serviced/replaced. Else without an access hatch, the exhaust, drive shaft and a other stuff needs to be dropped to remove the fuel tank from the car. Such costs $$$ in labour.

If Bridgestone dropped the tank, then ideally (as experts) they should have advised you that you should have fitted an fuel pump and sender unit access hatches for the next time the something dies…

Food for thought and just to reiterate such for those that don’t have access hatches and have failures going forward

PS: if it was a drop tank $$$ job, I’d definitely be claiming such from Holden under your ACL statutory rights.

 

[lmoengnr]

They are a bridgestone mechanic that I've taken it too a few times now aa the closest "previous" Holden dealer is 45km away.

They (Bridgestone) told me the connector would still be fine after a bit of cleaning. It clearly looked burnt out though and had started to melt the plastic cover on the old fuel pump itself.

Yeah I daw the new fuel pump and old one. It's definitely a new pump. Really looking like this faulty harness connector is the problem. I've requested a new harness asap.

You'll need a replacement harness from the FPCM to the pump. Probably no new stock in Aus.

@Dawgyz, does your 2014 SSV have the fuel pump access hatch under the rear seat?

I can’t remember when Holden stopped fitting fuel pump access hatch to the cars. Mid VE comes to mind but not sure so thought I’d ask.

Only early VE's had the panel, it was deleted so it could be exported to the US as the G8. Similar happened to the Monaro, it needed a fuel tank redesign to be exported as a Pontiac GTO.

 

[dassaur]

@Dawgyz, does your 2014 SSV have the fuel pump access hatch under the rear seat?

I can’t remember when Holden stopped fitting fuel pump access hatch to the cars. Mid VE comes to mind but not sure so thought I’d ask.

Having a fuel pump (and sender) access hatch makes life much easy when those components need to be serviced/replaced. Else without an access hatch, the exhaust, drive shaft and a other stuff needs to be dropped to remove the fuel tank from the car. Such costs $$$ in labour.

If Bridgestone dropped the tank, then ideally (as experts) they should have advised you that you should have fitted an fuel pump and sender unit access hatches for the next time the something dies…

Food for thought and just to reiterate such for those that don’t have access hatches and have failures going forward

PS: if it was a drop tank $$$ job, I’d definitely be claiming such from Holden under your ACL statutory rights.

No VFs have the hatch!

 

[Skylarking]

No VFs have the hatch!

I did say

Mid VE comes to mind but not sure so thought I’d ask.

but must admit I forgot this was in the VF thread so a bit of a brain fart.

In any case, as there is potential that some VF’s were modded by owners, it’s always worth asking whether a car has an access hatch.

I wonder how much the OP was charged for labour to drop the tank?

 

[Dawgyz]

Yeah, definitely has the hatch.

I was charged all in all 4 hrs of labour at $400 something. Installation of new pump and testing. Crazy that they re-installed the burnt out harness though.

I've called them and told them. Didn't understand when I said I wanna re-book it in and I probably need a replacement harness. Surely this is their mistake as they should of had this replaced with the fuel pump in the first place.

I'm hoping no further damage is being done in the few days since. Hopefully it will start tonight when I finish work so I can take it back to the mechanic.