V6formethx
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Hi all, and thanks in advance if you are even reading this, let alone able to offer assistance.
I have never come across and issue with these motors I haven't resolved myself, but this has me absolutely stumped after months of trying to figure it out.
Issue:
Engine light comes on after a short time driving every-time the car is used. Plugging in with Tunerpro RT and ALDL cable I can see that DTC57 is being triggered, the software says this is "Injector Monitor Line Fault". This happens regardless of whether the car is on LPG or Petrol.
Symptoms:
* Car seems to hesitate or stumble at time the light is triggered.
* Car runs roughly on LPG and will eventually stall and or backfire.
* Does not stall on petrol although a feeling like it is not running very smoothly is noticeable.
* Noticeable increase in fuel consumption.
History:
The car has always tripped this code every so often but has always gone away after not very long without even needing to restart the car. I was told this was normal due to the LPG system and it has never produced any side effects to cause me to think otherwise.
It started after the following work was done by me to the car:
* Replaced injector seals that were leaking.
* Replaced PCV Valve only because they are cheap and I had already pulled the engine down to that point so I figured I'd save the potential issue in the near future.
* Replaced valley gaskets, both sides.
* Replaced all vacuum lines.
* Cleaned throttle body and intake plenum while removed.
* All new gaskets used on everything removed.
* Replaced both engine mounts.
* Oil filter and oil change.
* New spark plugs and 8mm quality leads.
What I've Tried:
I really want to write "everything" here as that is what it feels like, but clearly there is one resolution I haven't tried yet, the correct one! So here goes to the best of my memory.
Switched the following with known working parts:
* Intake Air Control Valve
* Throttle Position Sensor
* Ignition control module and all coil packs
* Plugs and leads
* Both O2 sensors (individually with test drive in-between)
Have tested the wire identified as the injector monitor line by the service manual from end to end with no sign of altering resistance throughout car. It shows battery level voltage. I've checked all electrical connections figuring I may have knocked something that had a dicky connection already, put new connectors on multiple wires related to the LPG as a result, but the issue remains.
Have ruled out an injector being damaged as the issue occurs on LPG still and it is actually only able to be driven on petrol.
Have thoroughly checked for vacuum leaks everywhere but behind dash as the heater and vent controls operate fine so I ruled out any fault on the cabin side of the firewall.
There is probably more that I'm not thinking of right this second but I will add this if need.
Any help greatly appreciated, I fear this is literally starting to drive me insane! I have been over and over anything I touched and cant fault my work, yet it only started after doing that work and is basically telling me it has to be related, or the worlds biggest, and cruelest coincidence. No suggestion or question is considered a bad one, this is desperation at this point.
I have never come across and issue with these motors I haven't resolved myself, but this has me absolutely stumped after months of trying to figure it out.
Issue:
Engine light comes on after a short time driving every-time the car is used. Plugging in with Tunerpro RT and ALDL cable I can see that DTC57 is being triggered, the software says this is "Injector Monitor Line Fault". This happens regardless of whether the car is on LPG or Petrol.
Symptoms:
* Car seems to hesitate or stumble at time the light is triggered.
* Car runs roughly on LPG and will eventually stall and or backfire.
* Does not stall on petrol although a feeling like it is not running very smoothly is noticeable.
* Noticeable increase in fuel consumption.
History:
The car has always tripped this code every so often but has always gone away after not very long without even needing to restart the car. I was told this was normal due to the LPG system and it has never produced any side effects to cause me to think otherwise.
It started after the following work was done by me to the car:
* Replaced injector seals that were leaking.
* Replaced PCV Valve only because they are cheap and I had already pulled the engine down to that point so I figured I'd save the potential issue in the near future.
* Replaced valley gaskets, both sides.
* Replaced all vacuum lines.
* Cleaned throttle body and intake plenum while removed.
* All new gaskets used on everything removed.
* Replaced both engine mounts.
* Oil filter and oil change.
* New spark plugs and 8mm quality leads.
What I've Tried:
I really want to write "everything" here as that is what it feels like, but clearly there is one resolution I haven't tried yet, the correct one! So here goes to the best of my memory.
Switched the following with known working parts:
* Intake Air Control Valve
* Throttle Position Sensor
* Ignition control module and all coil packs
* Plugs and leads
* Both O2 sensors (individually with test drive in-between)
Have tested the wire identified as the injector monitor line by the service manual from end to end with no sign of altering resistance throughout car. It shows battery level voltage. I've checked all electrical connections figuring I may have knocked something that had a dicky connection already, put new connectors on multiple wires related to the LPG as a result, but the issue remains.
Have ruled out an injector being damaged as the issue occurs on LPG still and it is actually only able to be driven on petrol.
Have thoroughly checked for vacuum leaks everywhere but behind dash as the heater and vent controls operate fine so I ruled out any fault on the cabin side of the firewall.
There is probably more that I'm not thinking of right this second but I will add this if need.
Any help greatly appreciated, I fear this is literally starting to drive me insane! I have been over and over anything I touched and cant fault my work, yet it only started after doing that work and is basically telling me it has to be related, or the worlds biggest, and cruelest coincidence. No suggestion or question is considered a bad one, this is desperation at this point.