Losing our tradesmen

[mpower]

let's face it mechanic is a bit of a dead end trade, it will be relegated to limited specialty so you'll only see the really good guys doing it in future not the swapsie brigade.

We are at the dawn of the electric age, and like cobblers and the old coach builders of old mechanics of today will be relegated to history faster than a lot of us may think.

 

[Trevor loves holden.]

Seriously, have a little thought....What copper or council is going to fine someone for doing their job? I suspect you haven't looked to deep into it, before posting...

LOL and you need to read better, I said it only involves residential residents, or people living in that street that this applies to , u know keep the peace, of coarse the world cant stop or trains wouldn't run out side those times, truck drivers wouldn't be able to drive at night, or road works cant be done at night. People are notified if roadworks are going to take place in there street at night, then you have water mains bursting in the night that needs heavy machinery, cops with sirens all night long, its only for those who dwell in that street to avoid threats and violence. Next time someone abusers you in the street at night tell them I have the right to do so look it up. Peace

 

[vc commodore]

LOL and you need to read better, I said it only involves residential residents, or people living in that street that this applies to , u know keep the peace, of coarse the world cant stop or trains wouldn't run out side those times, truck drivers wouldn't be able to drive at night, or road works cant be done at night. People are notified if roadworks are going to take place in there street at night, then you have water mains bursting in the night that needs heavy machinery, cops with sirens all night long, its only for those who dwell in that street to avoid threats and violence. Next time someone abusers you in the street at night tell them I have the right to do so look it up. Peace

Seriously Trevor.....Noise restrictions.....People complain to the police....Police come out to investigate the complaint and take appropriate action. If the person in the street takes matters into their own hands, they are the one dealing with the police.

So in my instance, they will take the complaint, maybe come out and ask me why the noise and drive away, because they will use common sense, that the machinery needs to be fixed so they can continue on with their work.

Oh and getting abused....Been a few and all I say is, I can't help it....I have a job to do, so take it up with the owners of the machinery...And yes I've had to call the police because some got a little threatening and they have hung around till the job was finished

Nightworks....Yes residents are notified on the period of time those works are taking place....If I take your approach of wait till 7 am before I can do anything with your machinery, those works are then delayed 1 day per incident, therefore necessitating for another permit (yes permits are issued for night works that aren't emergencies), which then delays the finishing of the works for about a month...

So would you be willing to field all the complaints from residents, because the works aren't completed as stated, because a twit like me can't fix a tyre because of a time curfew?

 

[Drawnnite]

let's face it mechanic is a bit of a dead end trade, it will be relegated to limited specialty so you'll only see the really good guys doing it in future not the swapsie brigade.

We are at the dawn of the electric age, and like cobblers and the old coach builders of old mechanics of today will be relegated to history faster than a lot of us may think.

Its true. Even consider the amount of throw away and replace instead of repairing that occurs. (which was the original intention of the drill sharpening comment)
They will still be out there, but they will be very limited and specialised.
Over time it will taper off.

I've just spent a week working with a Chinese fella and he said you don't really own cars there.
You scan the code, the car unlocks and you get out afterwards.
If it goes to electrical it'll be all plug in, and replace the components. Design it right and it'll be a few bolts a connector and that's it. replace the whole drive wheel and suspension instead of worrying about each piece individually.

A bit like many trades (and other careers) though, they have developed and changed.
A Blacksmith would now be a fabricator (sheet metal, heavy engineering, boilermaker etc)
Instrument techs in the 70s and 80s were using pneumatic controls and linkages, now its electronics.
Plumbers used to have to bend, thread, weld etc, now its quick crimp fittings.
Even drafts people. used to be a fine art with a pencil, now its all computer generated.
In the end its done to save time and costs associated with that.

The old skills wont necessarily disappear, but they will be reduced and limited in practice, possibly to those willing to pay.

 

[VS 5.0]

let's face it mechanic is a bit of a dead end trade, it will be relegated to limited specialty so you'll only see the really good guys doing it in future not the swapsie brigade.

We are at the dawn of the electric age, and like cobblers and the old coach builders of old mechanics of today will be relegated to history faster than a lot of us may think.

No doubt they will be but a foot note in history but with some 19m registered motor vehicles in Australia, they probably have a little time to go before they turn the lights out.

 

[Trevor loves holden.]

Over time it will taper off

I see what you done there, Not worth sharpening bits under 3.5mm its cheaper to just replace it, I sharpen all mine with a bench grinder, buying bigger bits are not cheap.

 

[Nitro_X]

When people use the term 'tradesman' they usually always think of the construction industry, followed my the automotive industry.

There are other Trades.
I'm an Electronics Technician by trade (4 year apprenticeship in the 1980's through Sth Brisbane TAFE)
In 2000 the GovCo introduced new import rules/regulations of consumer electronics allowing cheap imports from developing countries, mostly China.
It crippled my industry, it became easier and cheaper to buy a new electronic gadget than repair/service one (unless it was under warranty), businesses went broke, many lost jobs never to return to their trade.
And NOBODY else in Australia knew about it, nobody gave a toss...our industry had zero government support, unlike the construction and property industry which is protected and subsidised to the eyeballs.
I've had to continually update and learn new skills to keep up with a rapidly changing world.

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[Trevor loves holden.]

When people use the term 'tradesman' they usually always think of the construction industry, followed my the automotive industry.

There are other Trades.
I'm an Electronics Technician by trade (4 year apprenticeship in the 1980's through Sth Brisbane TAFE)
In 2000 the GovCo introduced new import rules/regulations of consumer electronics allowing cheap imports from developing countries, mostly China.
It crippled my industry, it became easier and cheaper to buy a new electronic gadget than repair/service one (unless it was under warranty), businesses went broke, many lost jobs never to return to their trade.
And NOBODY else in Australia knew about it, nobody gave a toss...our industry had zero government support, unlike the construction and property industry which is protected and subsidised to the eyeballs.
I've had to continually update and learn new skills to keep up with a rapidly changing world.

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Yes its a shame how we have become a throw away society, I had brought a nice 12" Australian made subwoofer cheap for my home theatre thought cant be to hard to get it going maybe a fuse or a capacitor blown, nope couldn't see any issue so I emailed the company and they gave me this contact number who fixes there stuff in Victoria, so anyway posted it to him and he fixed it for 50 bucks all the issue was a simple volume knob with the contact spring apparently a known issue, now she is a beauty, he was a German electronic engineer and they are coming hard to find as like you said cheaper to buy new from china than it is for parts and repair.

 

[Nitro_X]

The last few years I spent on the service bench I was mostly a 'PCB jocky' and firmware updater for warranty repairs.
With the occasional customer repair for high end audio gear, where I would actually locate faults down to component level repair, as apposed to replacing a complete PCB or module.

The business was throwing away large quantities of circuit boards and equipment that was uneconomical to repair.
It all went to land fill
I didn't know what else to do with it at the time and the boss man didn't care.
Lots of toxic chemicals as well as precious metals.

So our government brings in e-waste recycling, but most of it just gets shipped offshore....
Out of site, out of mind.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07...ern-nations-destroying-thai-villages/11274578

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science...ts-to-developing-countries-unethical/10119000

Burning e-waste from western developed nations, in Africa, to extract the copper...

 

[Trevor loves holden.]

Bit like our plastic waste now China doesn't want it, so its just sitting in big old factories no where to go.