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Discussion in 'Site Feedback / Site Problems' started by monstar, Jun 13, 2018.

  1. immortality

    immortality Moderator Staff Member

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    Do we really need to contaminate this thread with the same old arguments?

    Is it possible we all leave the school playground for just a minute, grow up and act like adults? All people are entitled to their opinion and are open to state that opinion. I think we can all be adult (like) and accept what other people say even if we don't agree with it? If you don't like that, can I suggest Facebook my be a better platform for you needs?

    Yes this is a Commodore forum, but nowhere in the rules does it state that you must be one eyed to be a member.
     
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  2. commodore665

    commodore665 expat Saffa

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    same here , most members here know how to conduct themselves , but now and again some will push the boundaries of what is acceptable . When I was a copper , we'd say to people who would not co-operate , " if you don''t play the game , we won't either , either co-operate or have a weekend in the police cells , it's your call " .
     
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    lmoengnr Well-Known Member

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    I think most normal people, who register to a forum, would know that adding a second account will get you banned.

    Simple logic.
     
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    losh1971 Well-Known Member

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    Why would anyone need two accounts in tbe same forum?
     
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    VS 5.0 Well-Known Member

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    So they can play good cop / bad cop ?

    Argue with themselves and portray themselves as a victim ?

    Any number of reasons.
     
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    losh1971 Well-Known Member

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    right :confused::confused::confused:. Each to their own i guess...
     
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    Tonner Matt Well-Known Member

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    My post had nothing to do with the "point" you were trying to make.
    To satisfy my own curiosity I went looking for the Forum rules, I then decided to post where I found them and added the link in case anybody else reading this thread wanted to take a look for themselves.
     
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    As Scotty would say “your logic is bloody daft Mr Spock, that’s no what it says” (in the Forum Rules). JC admin has advised specifically any second account will be deleted and a two point infraction imposed. Not immediate permanent ban, check Forum Rules.
    That’s the point... concern over illogical punitive action dealt to enthusiastic new member using Forum Rules as a basis, when just as important is the illogical human error in communication that’s so rife to cause injustice.
    Logic states that you (and most members apparently) assume the laissez faire Terms and Rules as agreed was definitive and overriding. That Forum Rules were notional values of common courtesy, passed on and adopted over the years by heresay.
    There is no other logical explanation for mistaking a second account infraction for permanent ban penalty. Live long and prosper BTW.
     
  9. Tatiana

    Tatiana Russian Gymnast Staff Member

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    He has been banned a few times, some bans expire after a set time however Pirate kept creating accounts and pushing his luck. Should Monstar be banned again for evading bans?

    Rather childish comment don't you think? Things don't go your way and you form the opinion it's because members are friends with Moderators.

    He created his account 20 April 2018!!!
     
  10. Pollushon

    Pollushon Boost gives me a bar....

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    I remember Raj and I don't think knowing the rules would have helped him much. Like elephants some people are just jerks. He'd done everything, knew everything, owned all the monies and spoke down to anyone who didn't share his views. It's hard to believe this was the real guy cause outside a forum that's gotta be a lonely life.

    I've never read the rules, don't really need to and never incurred an infraction maybe just a light "careful buddy" where I've let emotion rule reason.
     
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    Logic is logic, Dirk. No need to create a second account, unless for nefarious reasons...
     
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    I didn’t say there was a need for two accounts?
    I’m saying the penalty for two accounts is clear, as will become many things once you read the Forum Rules.
    Good advice really if you are prone to squealing about member behaviour, you know, to read the rules and penalties before calling to permanently ban per what you deem appropriate, without basis according tenets of the Forum Rules.
    No need to be hysterical at all, poor form in a civilised member community of mutual respect.
     
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    Ok Dirk, you were abusing a new member, and I reported you, only once.
    The mods obviously thought it was enough for a ban, but one of your 'mod friends' told you who reported you....
    You're correct in that I haven't reviewed all the rules, but I don't go out to push them, like some others...
     
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    You may claim ignorance for not knowing the member and I were friends, both scots background used to a different level and type of banter than those with thinner skins and sensibilities. There was no ill-feeling, only you were offended.
    However this past half century I’ve had my share of incursions with rules and regulations regarding social behaviour, suffice it to say in my experience calling for someone’s head without first knowing the rules of engagement is poor form.
    Best read up and I’ll bury the hatchet OK.
     
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    Thought I might as well share this here.
    So after reading the "Forum Rules" again, these two particular sentences under the sub heading "Infraction System" really stand out :
    "Any infractions you receive are final and can be viewed in your profile screen.
    These point structures are a guide only, no Just Commodores moderator or Admin has to follow these guidelines, it is at their own discretion"

    It's self explanatory, if you're out of line the severity of your reprimand is entirely up to the admin/mod.
    Some people need get over the decisions made by the admins/mods and just move on
     
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    I can't see my infractions. I've had two posts deleted over the last year. Maybe I wasn't naughty enough??
     
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    I've had 1 minor infraction in 2015 with a 1 point accrued penalty......I could always see it in my personal profile, under Infractions.
    I was on holidays from mid October to mid December 2016 with no forum access and whilst I was away the forum had a change of layout/design
    After that layout/design change the "Infractions" section isn't in my personal profile anymore, and I didn't bother asking where it went to cause it's not like I actually want to accrue anymore infraction points :p

    I have also had 1 pic removed by a mod without an infraction, I reckon your 2 deleted posts weren't regarded as being "out of line" enough to warrant an infraction.
     
  19. immortality

    immortality Moderator Staff Member

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    Posts may be deleted without incuring a warning/infraction. Most common scenario is when a thread is completely derailed and/or some rule is broken where we may remove a whole section of replies to get things back on topic and remove the offending material and anything subsequent to it.

    Threads that contain or get waylaid into religion, politics or climate change are generally a recipy for diseaster...

    It's still there, I can see it and you should be able to as well, just click on your username and bring up the full profile page.
     
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    Tonner Matt Well-Known Member

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    Just double checked again and it's definitely not there in the column of sub headings on the left
    Maybe only the admin & mods can see it now ?
    Anyway, doesn't matter....I don't want to be accumulating anymore anyway :)
     

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