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So that is Tezza in the water and a Holden Engineer with the rod ?
Yep. The engineer is wearing a back brace cause they dont have the spine to stand up to the acountants :eek:o_O:p
 

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Yep. The engineer is wearing a back brace cause they dont have the spine to stand up to the acountants :eek:o_O:p
Jeez Louise. Any opportunity to stick one into the poor old bean counters. :eek:
Next we'll be blamed for COVID-19! Still...Better that than taking the rap for Zombiedore? Bombadore? ZBommodore! :D
 

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I'll blame you lot for sending our manufacturing capacity offshore.
That's as harsh as it is inaccurate. In response to what was clearly a bit of fun. But do tell. What is this damning evidence you have on "us lot"?
 

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That's as harsh as it is inaccurate. In response to what was clearly a bit of fun. But do tell. What is this damning evidence you have on "us lot"?

Bean counters shaving costs and maximising profits.
 

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Bean counters shaving costs and maximising profits.
So, what do you suggest 5.0? That these businesses continue to operate at a loss. Bleeding cash? As a charity? That would require billions of $'s of taxpayer funded capital contributions and other incentives. Hang on a minute!
At a simple level, without accurate budgetting, cost accounting, financial management etc, many of the cars we love would never have seen the light of day. Holden would have closed.it's doors decades ago... The stark and (I thought) obvious reality is that business owners expect a return from their investments. Whether Mum and Dad corner stores, or majority shareholders of large manufacturing corporations. It's a simple paradigm. Otherwise the doors invlevitably close. "Us lot", in part, help to make business profitable. Ideally, helping to drive growth in revenue, and profit. Sometimes, that results in a need to cut costs, or the product never gets to market. Worse still (e.llg ZB) it does and it flops. Generally though, the data we collect and report goes to others to make informed decsions.
While having no idea of your professional background or experience in such matters, I'm sure you understand this at some level.
Anyway as I said. It was a light hearted comment. I'll get off my soapbox before a fellow cost cutter pulls that out from under me too. :p
 

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So, what do you suggest 5.0? That these businesses continue to operate at a loss. Bleeding cash? As a charity? That would require billions of $'s of taxpayer funded capital contributions and other incentives. Hang on a minute!
At a simple level, without accurate budgetting, cost accounting, financial management etc, many of the cars we love would never have seen the light of day. Holden would have closed.it's doors decades ago... The stark and (I thought) obvious reality is that business owners expect a return from their investments. Whether Mum and Dad corner stores, or majority shareholders of large manufacturing corporations. It's a simple paradigm. Otherwise the doors invlevitably close. "Us lot", in part, help to make business profitable. Ideally, helping to drive growth in revenue, and profit. Sometimes, that results in a need to cut costs, or the product never gets to market. Worse still (e.llg ZB) it does and it flops. Generally though, the data we collect and report goes to others to make informed decsions.
While having no idea of your professional background or experience in such matters, I'm sure you understand this at some level.
Anyway as I said. It was a light hearted comment. I'll get off my soapbox before a fellow cost cutter pulls that out from under me too. :p

I totally understand the need for businesses of all flavours to make a reasonable profit and return on investment.

I was simply continuing the lighthearted dig at bean counters and not having a go at you particularly.

You have to admit though, that globalisation and the outsourcing of a large part of global production to one place is not necessarily a good thing, i.e. eggs in baskets and all that.
 

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I found it quite interesting and an eye opener to read in the 1994 forward planning for the proposed VT Commodore it was calculated GMH could save A$4 million in tooling by modifying the Opel V-2800 floor pan and using common floor pan pressings for both sedan and wagon variants.

Retooling the VR series HVAC box, proposed to carry over to VT, to resolve an air flow deficiency to the dash end air vents would cost approx A$3 million.
Without bean counters businesses would go broke pretty quickly.
 
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