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well done for trying/doing it yourself, now you qualify to say your a brake technican, once you do the fronts you will see a good improvement in stopping power.
yeh cheers,i have a hj60 landcruiser usually can do most things on that but this is challenging,now i have a new noise to discover that is when i turn right or under gas over a bump there is a knock that seems under or behind my bum(say back right area)....like when the rear right wheel gets free or over the bump it goes bang....interesting.
 

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I thought a oem pad change was a set charge $ which included checking disk/rotor legality before any pad/rotor change or machining disks. Most mechanics do just slap pads on and dont even grease/lubricate/clean anything or even test vehicle on roaad, they havent got time and all there time is charged like a lawyer. With a set charge Time wouldn't be a factor unless there was piston leakage and seals replaced, bleeding the system for seals or replacing entire brake fluid and adjusting complete handbrake. So basically shane is close to the ball park with time but not just for a quick pad change, and I still use/have my old original copper hammer, beats any stupid plastic hammer which bounces and causes irs injuries to wrists, copper absorbs vibration and still produces power on objects without leaving a scratch. My skills come from my 1st job from school for 4 years in a brake garage where I started as workshop shitkicker to working on cars/maching disks/bonding brake shoes to learning/helping out in the hydraulic section, had a chance to work on a lot of old classics local and o/s.


You have a set rate, for time to change pads and rotors.....Then you have set rates to change brake fluid....Then you have the rates to supply and fit the required pads, rotors and/or brake fluid. This is all combined, when quoting up the job....

If there is a caliper issue, ie leaking piston seal, then you would talk to the customer and quote accordingly to repair the faulty parts.

Handbrake adjustment...This is another area, that doesn't need doing with every rear brake pad change, on a commodore.....I haven't adjusted my handbrake in 10 years...Only replaced the rear brake pads 6 months ago....Handbrake lever....3 clicks and the car holds on a hill, out of gear with it on.

The majority of things you have mentioned add extra time, yes....But honestly, how often do caliper piston seals let go? Brake fluid flush.....10 minutes to do? Being generous with that, because that's how long it took me to do mine recently, when I changed master cylinders....Handbrake adjustment....How often? Be a little realistic when replying
 

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oh no not rear end noises, thats like a bag full of monkeys. Sounds awfully like a shocker bush loose/worn or even the shocker bolt loose either top or bottom or a suspension bush orrrrrrrrr worst case a rear wheel axle/bearings/bushes/spigots part of the suspension rear cradle diff mount.
 

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Wow an hour for all four. Guess when you do them every day you get quick. Takes me at least that for two.
Funny thing is i realised how quick i can do ordering tonight now that I've done it plenty of times. Boss comes in and was asking to borrow some fuel vouchers if his didn't arrive before Wed. I said I'll order them for him, save him fucken around. 5 mins later job done. Used to take me 15-20mins to do an order when I was senior and not supervisor.


Like everything mate...Do things often enough, it gets quicker.....

When I replaced 4 rotors and rear pads, changed master cylinder and re-bled the entire system, from start to finish it took me an hour on my own car. That was start to finish.... You automatically know the tools required and putting your hands on them quickly helps. If you can't, it can take longer...(No offense to you, if you don't have your tools in order....:) Some people are like that)
 

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You have a set rate, for time to change pads and rotors.....Then you have set rates to change brake fluid....Then you have the rates to supply and fit the required pads, rotors and/or brake fluid. This is all combined, when quoting up the job....

If there is a caliper issue, ie leaking piston seal, then you would talk to the customer and quote accordingly to repair the faulty parts.

Handbrake adjustment...This is another area, that doesn't need doing with every rear brake pad change, on a commodore.....I haven't adjusted my handbrake in 10 years...Only replaced the rear brake pads 6 months ago....Handbrake lever....3 clicks and the car holds on a hill, out of gear with it on.

The majority of things you have mentioned add extra time, yes....But honestly, how often do caliper piston seals let go? Brake fluid flush.....10 minutes to do? Being generous with that, because that's how long it took me to do mine recently, when I changed master cylinders....Handbrake adjustment....How often? Be a little realistic when replying


I was being realistic, I was commenting on shanes post, talking about time is like giving the cheapest quote which we know always cost more surprise. I quote for my other work quotes on the higher scale and bingo most jobs end up being less or on budget, no surprises.

If something takes you 10 mins, thats great, most others probably take more time this aint a pi...... contest. If you change rear pads/rotors on a commodore, OF COURSE you readjust new the handbrake since it wasn't done for a lifetime and rear pads dont wear often like fronts do. As for piston seal leaks well I have seen quite a few siezed and leak after being pushed back for new pads. rubber seals dont last long in old crappy smelly unchanged brake fluid which most people get fluid changed enough.
 

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Like everything mate...Do things often enough, it gets quicker.....

When I replaced 4 rotors and rear pads, changed master cylinder and re-bled the entire system, from start to finish it took me an hour on my own car. That was start to finish.... You automatically know the tools required and putting your hands on them quickly helps. If you can't, it can take longer...(No offense to you, if you don't have your tools in order....:) Some people are like that)
Yeah when you do it often enough you get good at remembering what size spanners and sockets you need, no getting back up because you grabbed the wrong tool. I was like that on the Jeep, knew that bus inside out.
 

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oh no not rear end noises, thats like a bag full of monkeys. Sounds awfully like a shocker bush loose/worn or even the shocker bolt loose either top or bottom or a suspension bush orrrrrrrrr worst case a rear wheel axle/bearings/bushes/spigots part of the suspension rear cradle diff mount.
Yeh,i been reading through the sites filter and could be many a thing,bearings have no noise at all,smooth as far as my ears let me-bushes need to check and yeh i need to learn how to get to things as well.
 

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beats any stupid plastic hammer which bounces and causes irs injuries to wrists
Never had a issue one whack and its loose,
IRS meaning: Infernal Revenue Service
If a spouse has fallen behind on alimony payments and the spouse file a joint tax return, the IRS can take the entire refund due even though only one spouse owes the debt. Thus, the term “injured” when referring to the negatively impacted spouse. Yes from google.

I think you meant RSI. Don't have that to late in the evening, ;);):D
 

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oh no not rear end noises, thats like a bag full of monkeys. Sounds awfully like a shocker bush loose/worn or even the shocker bolt loose either top or bottom or a suspension bush orrrrrrrrr worst case a rear wheel axle/bearings/bushes/spigots part of the suspension rear cradle diff mount.
Might be just a stuffed shocker.
 

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Like everything mate...Do things often enough, it gets quicker.....

When I replaced 4 rotors and rear pads, changed master cylinder and re-bled the entire system, from start to finish it took me an hour on my own car. That was start to finish.... You automatically know the tools required and putting your hands on them quickly helps. If you can't, it can take longer...(No offense to you, if you don't have your tools in order....:) Some people are like that)
I'll give you a tip, if you took that long where I work you would not last long.
I bet your workshop goal is 100k for the month......... I'd love to see you in a big boys workshop.
 
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